Dear Barry, Markus, All,

Thank you for your thorough consideration of all of the preliminary
points we sent. Please find a response attached. Our latest comments
are inline, in red and with an IDEA: prefix. Our initial comments
(circulated on Jan 16th, 2015) are in italics.

We understand that you want to proceed with the formation of the
association and that it is a fairly flexible legal entity under Swiss
law, however it is still a legal entity and we need to pay utmost
attention before forming it. Having in mind that the activities of the
association are still unclear to us, as well as what the intellectual
assets, as present in the articles, might be, we would propose to
clarify those (e.g. during the next scheduled meeting) before
proceeding with a review of what legal entity under what jurisdiction
might be the best option in our particular case. Please understand
that our response serves to indicate that there are still a number of
outstanding questions before we jump towards the creation of a new
legal entity.

We're also looking forward obtaining the minutes from the first
meeting that you've held on Jan 16, 2015 -- have you circulated them
already?

Considering our long-lasting partnership, we hope that we would have a
chance for a proper consideration of the different opportunities ahead
of us.

On behalf of IDEA's team,

Best regards,
Vedrin

On 22 January 2015 at 08:55, Barry Hardy <barry.hardy at douglasconnect.com> wrote:
> Dear Vedrin and all
> - Below is an initial seed list for membership. It is not meant to be
> exhaustive and can be built on. Suggest that we don't try to contact all
> possible members to get started
> - Micha is helping with membership list setup for discussion and can issue
> invitations with subscription options
> - Attached are updated articles from Markus, who I suggest maintains
> definitive versioned copy
> - Attached are some comments on your comments
> - 16.30 CET Fri 30 Jan was set for next VM; Markus can give details on VMs
> best regards
> Barry
>
> Christoph Helma
> Micha Rautenburg
> Stefan Kramer
> Nina Jeliazkova
> Vedrin Jeliazkov
> Harry Sarimveis
> Indira Ghosh
> David Gallagher
> Sunil Chawla
> Juergen Borlak
> Emilio Benfenati
> Jeff Wiseman
> Glenn Myatt
> Egon Willighagen
> Roland Grafstrom
> Pekka Kohonen
> Ola Spjuth
> Vladimir Poirokov
> Rick Beger
> Thomas Hartung
> Maurice Whelan
> Asish Mohapatra
> Tim Pastoor
> Tim Dudgeon
> Scott Auerbach
> Stephen Edwards
> Hristo ALADJOV
> Derek.KNIGHT
> Grace Tier
> Rusty Thomas
> Aldo Benigni
> Andrew White
> Patric Amcoff
> Gladys Ouedraogo
> Martina Klaric
> Catherne Mahoney
> Catherine Verfaillie
> Catherine Mahony
> Christian Desaintes
> Ian Cotgreave
> Jan Hengstler
> Juergen Hescheler
> Elam Heinzle
> Michael Schwarz
> Tilman Gocht
> Bruno Cucinelli
> Elisabet Berggren
> Spela Predan Hardy
> Danna Winner
> Markus Hegi
> Barry Hardy
>
>
>
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>
>
> On 21.01.2015 17:37, Vedrin Jeliazkov wrote:
>>
>> Dear Barry,
>>
>> On 21 January 2015 at 16:33, Barry Hardy <barry.hardy at douglasconnect.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I provide here a brief update on the OpenTox Association founding.
>>
>> Thank you. We're awaiting the detailed minutes of the first meeting
>> you've held on Friday, January 16th, 2014, despite our inability to
>> join on a 24 hour notice. A proof that you've circulated our written
>> concerns to all the people you've invited to attend (not limited just
>> to only those who have actually attended) would be also necessary.
>>
>>> Thanks for your detailed review of the draft articles which we are taking
>>> into account in our refinement, and will respond on shortly.
>>
>> Given the short notice, our review was by no means detailed or
>> exhaustive. Please consider the comments we have circulated as
>> preliminary remarks only. Of course, we will be happy to study your
>> response.
>>
>>> We have received a significant amount of positive feedback on proceeding.
>>
>> Again, if you could be a bit more specific here that would be helpful.
>> In general, applying a much more transparent approach would be
>> advisable.
>>
>>> We
>>> agreed at the virtual meeting held 16 January to allow  a period of two
>>> weeks for refinement of the articles and to meet again virtually 16.30
>>> CET
>>> Fri Jan 30 with the goal of completing the founding, or if that was not
>>> possible agreeing next steps.
>>
>> We will need some reasonable time to study your written response to
>> our remarks, so please have this in mind when scheduling your next
>> actions.
>>
>>> A further period of refinement, resource
>>> planning, membership development will progress subsequently.
>>
>> That would of course depend on a lot of things, at least as far as we
>> are concerned.
>>
>>> We will circulate refined versions of the articles and founding member
>>> list
>>> (which is open to extensions) meanwhile.
>>
>> OK, fine -- we're waiting to see these refined versions and hope that
>> they would not be circulated only 24 hours ahead of the next meeting.
>>
>>> Please let me know if you:
>>> a) approve or have any suggestions to the articles
>>
>> The answer to this is already contained in our preliminary remarks,
>> that we've circulated on Friday afternoon.
>>
>>> b) wish to join as a founding member (can reply positively by email)
>>
>> This is a decision that we (IDEA's team) will collectively make only
>> after studying all contributing factors.
>>
>>> c) can join the virtual meeting 30 Jan (further info will be sent)
>>
>> This would depend on:
>>
>> (i) the exact timing of the meeting;
>>
>> (ii) the availability of detailed minutes from the first meeting;
>>
>> (iii) the availability of a list of all invited founding members;
>>
>> (iv) the availability of a proof that our written remarks have been
>> circulated to all of them;
>>
>> (v) the availability of all documents (e.g. articles) that would be
>> discussed during the meeting well ahead of the meeting.
>>
>> On behalf of IDEA's team,
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vedrin
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