[OTDev] Techie Table
Barry Hardy barry.hardy at douglasconnect.comTue Sep 7 13:14:06 CEST 2010
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Rhodes workshop program is on OpenTox site in first draft form, but needs a significant update to reflect the different hands-on Knowledge Fair activities etc. - will try to get done by tomorrow, and additional information can then be added by all etc. http://www.opentox.org/data/blogentries/public/opentoxworkshoprhodes2010 Barry Am 07.09.2010 11:46, schrieb chung: > Hi Nina, Tobias, Barry, > In fact I had in mind what Nina suggested, that is to prepare the > source code for the workshop and then have the participants examine it > and run it (Write some more if we have time). Primarily I want to > present how the API works from the client and from the server side so > that one might be interested in developing a new service or use our > services in some application. > Barry, I'm expecting an audience with a moderate acquaintance with > Java. I will send out some installation instructions. Is there some > place on the site I could post them along with a brief description of > the scope of the discussion? > > Best Regards, > Pantelis > > > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 10:24 +0300, Nina Jeliazkova wrote: > >> Hi Pantelis, >> >> First, I think your plan is great. I have to agree with Tobias though, >> time-wise it is rather ambitious. It's rather difficult exercise to perform >> without knowing the participants background and experience, and there are >> quite number of dependencies which are very likely to be unfamiliar. >> >> To make it more feasible, I would suggest preparing readily available pieces >> of code, either for running them directly, or accompanied by instructions to >> copy/paste them to achive certain goal. >> >> Best regards, >> Nina >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tobias Girschick< >> tobias.girschick at in.tum.de> wrote: >> >>> Hi Pantelis, >>> >>> first of all, I like the partitioning into two parts. In the first part >>> participants can get a feeling for the OT API and in the second they can >>> make use of it. >>> Overall I guess your time estimates are very (very) optimistic. You have >>> to keep in mind, that we don't know the exact programming skills of the >>> participants and that that haven't worked with our - still not >>> sufficiently documented - API at all. >>> >>> best regards, >>> Tobias >>> >>> On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 18:22 +0300, chung wrote: >>>> Hello All, >>>> I'm sending out some notes/thoughts about the Techie Table >>>> >>>> @All: >>>> I'm thinking of organizing the discussion and presentation in two >>>> parts. In the first we are going to show how a developer can consume >>>> OpenTox web services from inside a Java application using some tools of >>>> ours. This will include some A&A also. Using web clients and parsers, >>>> the participants will download and parse OpenTox resources such as >>>> compounds, features, datasets and models and inspect them from within >>>> their Java application. Exercises will include parsing of datasets and >>>> conversion into weka data objects (Instances), training of various >>>> models using NTUA, TUM and AMBIT algorithms (where necessary using also >>>> the A&A API). So this will familiarize the participants with the direct >>>> consumption of OT web services on a more advanced level than using web >>>> interfaces and a more programmatic way than using plain curl. This will >>>> take about 45 minutes including discussion/questions. >>>> In the second part, I'm thinking of having the audience building an >>>> OpenTox web service with some guidance. We will design and deploy a >>>> clustering algorithm for the sake of getting in touch with web services >>>> and having a better insight into the OpenTox API. First we will study >>>> the requirements of the OT API and will formulate hypothetical curl >>>> commands for how a request would look like (In a top-down approach). >>>> Then we will proceed formulating an RDF representation of the algorithm >>>> discussing at the same time about the structure of such a document and >>>> the information that should be found therein. Jena will be used as an >>>> RDF editor/parser, which will be quite useful to developers that want to >>>> get involved into any contemporary project (web semantics etc). We will >>>> not get into much detail as far as the storing of models is concerned >>>> but briefly we'll present the underlying database tables structure. Weka >>>> will be used to materialize the XMeans algorithm. The whole effort will >>>> boil down to just about 500 lines of source code including the use of >>>> various Java libraries such as Restlet, Weka, Jena and DeciBell. This >>>> will take about 75' and the rest of the time we will discuss about >>>> various challenges a developer can take. >>>> >>>> I'll be sending you a list of what should a participant have installed >>>> by the end of the day. If any participants experience problems >>>> installing any of the libraries/tools/programs in the list, we'll do it >>>> together on the table. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Pantelis >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Development mailing list >>>> Development at opentox.org >>>> http://www.opentox.org/mailman/listinfo/development >>> -- >>> Dipl.-Bioinf. Tobias Girschick >>> >>> Technische Universität München >>> Institut für Informatik >>> Lehrstuhl I12 - Bioinformatik >>> Bolzmannstr. 3 >>> 85748 Garching b. München, Germany >>> >>> Room: MI 01.09.042 >>> Phone: +49 (89) 289-18002 >>> Email: tobias.girschick at in.tum.de >>> Web: http://wwwkramer.in.tum.de/girschick >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Development mailing list >>> Development at opentox.org >>> http://www.opentox.org/mailman/listinfo/development >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Development mailing list > Development at opentox.org > http://www.opentox.org/mailman/listinfo/development
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